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Illegal magazines continue to arrive in California
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Smilin' Jack
2006-07-25 15:25:28 UTC
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Banned hi-capacity magazines are entering California at an alarming rate.
DOJ and law enforcement are steping up enforcement of laws to prevent the
illegal magazines from entering the state. Agents will be watching gun shows
and checking vehicles as they leave Nevada and cross over the state line
into California. It is a felony to import any magazine that is capable of
holding more then 10 rounds into California.

If you transport illegal contraband into California you will be arrested and
charged with felony importation and possession of hi-capacity magazines. If
you purchase a magazine across state lines make sure it can only accept 10
or less rounds. You are responsible for obeying the law so it is always a
good idea to check the magazine before coming back to California.
RM v2.0
2006-07-25 15:29:47 UTC
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Post by Smilin' Jack
Banned hi-capacity magazines are entering California at an alarming rate.
DOJ and law enforcement are steping up enforcement of laws to prevent the
illegal magazines from entering the state. Agents will be watching gun
shows and checking vehicles as they leave Nevada and cross over the state
line into California. It is a felony to import any magazine that is
capable of holding more then 10 rounds into California.
If you transport illegal contraband into California you will be arrested
and charged with felony importation and possession of hi-capacity
magazines. If you purchase a magazine across state lines make sure it can
only accept 10 or less rounds. You are responsible for obeying the law so
it is always a good idea to check the magazine before coming back to
California.
I dont think they can set up search points for this. Doesnt this run afoul
of Constitution?
Smilin' Jack
2006-07-25 16:43:51 UTC
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Post by RM v2.0
Post by Smilin' Jack
Banned hi-capacity magazines are entering California at an alarming rate.
DOJ and law enforcement are steping up enforcement of laws to prevent the
illegal magazines from entering the state. Agents will be watching gun
shows and checking vehicles as they leave Nevada and cross over the state
line into California. It is a felony to import any magazine that is
capable of holding more then 10 rounds into California.
If you transport illegal contraband into California you will be arrested
and charged with felony importation and possession of hi-capacity
magazines. If you purchase a magazine across state lines make sure it can
only accept 10 or less rounds. You are responsible for obeying the law so
it is always a good idea to check the magazine before coming back to
California.
I dont think they can set up search points for this. Doesnt this run afoul
of Constitution?
Constitution in California? Don't make me laugh... They can (and have done
before) vehicle checks for any reason they want. I remember having my
vehicle searched coming into California from Nevada years ago, saying they
were looking for illegal fruit and vegetables, ya right, they were looking
for the 2 pounds of pot I had hidden in my spare tire.
Barky Bark
2006-07-25 19:28:05 UTC
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the supreme court has had much to say on this topic. Generally the state
has a more compelling interest at borders. International borders, the most;
interstate borders, less but still rather compelling. What this means is
that individuals have fewer rights while crossing from one state into
another.

The Supreme Court has routinely upheld STOPS when they're random or done to
every car and when they impact the safety of the roads themselves (eg
sobriety checkpoints). However, this does not mean necessarily that your
car can be SEARCHED without individual suspicion even at interstate border
checkpoints.

Generally to be completely constitutional the police need particularized
suspicion or consent by you to do a search.

For example, if you're driving into CA and there's a roadblock at the border
and the person there says "Are you bringing in any noxious plants" or
whatever and you say "yes" well then you've given them particularized
suspicion to do a search. If they say "Mind if we search your car?" and you
say "ok" then you've given them consent.

The trick is not to do these things. If, horror of horrors, you're bringing
back hi-cap magazines you want to:
1) Make sure the cops don't see you walking out of the store with them in
your hand
2) Make sure they're not sitting on a seat next to you
3) Make sure you're not doing anything else illegal that would give the cops
reasonable suspicion to arrest you
4) Make sure you don't consent to a search when asked
5) Make sure you don't say anything stupid that would give them reasonable
suspicion.

I remember I was driving around south-eastern San Diego county a few years
back.. way out where they have people coming over the border from Mexico
with drugs. I got to a checkpoint and they said "Whatcha doing out here"
and I say "Oh just driving around." The cop said "Mind if I search your
trunk?" I said "I do not consent to a search." He got huffy and went to get
his sergeant, who came back and said, "Why don't you want us to do a
search -- are you in a hurry?" and I said "No, but my attorney alway
advises me never to consent to a search." And he said "Ok" and waived me
through.
Smirk
2006-07-25 19:45:59 UTC
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Post by Smilin' Jack
Banned hi-capacity magazines are entering California at an alarming rate.
DOJ and law enforcement are steping up enforcement of laws to prevent the
illegal magazines from entering the state. Agents will be watching gun shows
and checking vehicles as they leave Nevada and cross over the state line
into California. It is a felony to import any magazine that is capable of
holding more then 10 rounds into California.
If you transport illegal contraband into California you will be arrested and
charged with felony importation and possession of hi-capacity magazines. If
you purchase a magazine across state lines make sure it can only accept 10
or less rounds. You are responsible for obeying the law so it is always a
good idea to check the magazine before coming back to California.
The left coast needs gun control. There is nothing scarier than guns in the
hands of liberals.
R Sweeney
2006-07-25 22:28:57 UTC
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Post by Smilin' Jack
Banned hi-capacity magazines are entering California at an alarming rate.
DOJ and law enforcement are steping up enforcement of laws to prevent the
illegal magazines from entering the state. Agents will be watching gun
shows and checking vehicles as they leave Nevada and cross over the state
line into California. It is a felony to import any magazine that is
capable of holding more then 10 rounds into California.
If you transport illegal contraband into California you will be arrested
and charged with felony importation and possession of hi-capacity
magazines. If you purchase a magazine across state lines make sure it can
only accept 10 or less rounds. You are responsible for obeying the law so
it is always a good idea to check the magazine before coming back to
California.
Better to get an illegal Mexican alien to carry the mags for you since they
can't be stopped by local police.

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